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Kiwi haka was inappropriate: England

 

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England are firing back at New Zealand after controversially snubbing the haka, saying the Kiwi's crossed the line with their aggressive display.

The English have no regrets about snubbing the haka in Newcastle on the weekend and set the scene for semi-final fireworks by claiming any accusations of disrespect should be aimed at the Kiwis.

Coach Tony Smith shone the spotlight on NZ for encroaching on his team's side of the field and the Maori practice of showing tongues.

Instead of facing the traditional pre-match war-dance, England went into a team huddle, effectively turning their backs on the Kiwis.

In response, the NZ players performed their haka on the move and progressed over the half-way line before its conclusion.

Smith today denied his team was in the wrong, and had no issues with repeating the pre-match tactic in Saturday night's semi-final at Suncorp Stadium.

"We did what we always do in England when anyone gets motivated, they get in groups and huddle around each other and that's really what we did," Smith said in Brisbane.

"It wasn't meant as any disrespect, and we did it in our half of the rugby league ground and if there was any disrespect shown I think there was some shown the other way.

"We certainly didn't stick tongues out and we didn't enter into the opposition's half of the field.

"Our boys just got together in making sure they were all motivated just like the opposition were motivated in going through their traditions. I think our traditions should be respected as well."

While former Kiwis captain Ruben Wiki bellowed the English actions were disrespectful, NZ's extra motivations were nowhere to be found in Newcastle.

England jumped to a 24-8 lead before the Kiwis ran over the top of them in the second half to win 36-24.

Smith indicated his players would decide whether to front up to the haka in Brisbane while skipper Jamie Peacock said they would discuss it later in the week.

Australian teams have learned they ignore or make fun of the haka at their peril.

In 1996, the Wallabies chose to run some passing drills down the other end of the field during the All Blacks pre-match routine and were subsequently thumped 43-6 in a record loss in Wellington.

Kangaroos forward Willie Mason paid the price for laughing and swearing during the Kiwis haka in 2006 when David Kidwell knocked him senseless with a ferocious tackle. Kidwell followed up by screaming at a motionless Mason who finished the game with a facial injury.

"That's (NZ's) choice what they do and we choose to do what we do," said Smith. "I don't see it as any part of the game.

"It all starts when the referee blows our whistle and that's where the rugby league should be decided.

"We shouldn't encroach on each other and we certainly didn't encroach on them at all."

Stand-in skipper Benji Marshall invited the English to deploy the tactic again, saying it would add to the motivation of the Kiwis.

"A few of the boys felt as though it was a bit of disrespect but they had every right to do what they done," Marshall said.

"If they want to do it again, that's fine.

"It will fire us up definitely but there will be no emotional side to it where it's going to put us off our game."

We certainly didn't stick tongues out and we didn't enter into the opposition's half of the field. England coach Tony Smith

 
 
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10/11/2008 8:09:39 PM Yes, we understand it is traditional and means something to the Kiwis, but having to face 17 fully grown men, sticking out their tongues, and making faces like they are constipated really has little meaning to anyone other than themselves. Maybe they had tun away to stop laughing! Posted by: HAKA SMAKA, Sydney, Australia Reply

11/11/2008 5:04:54 AM kidwells tackle was head high on mason and would have been sent off in a saturday nrl match.. you get away with more in tests and origin Posted by: mick kemp, murgon, Australia Reply

11/11/2008 10:02:12 AM Good one HAKA SMAKA, the only time england were really running in that match was after full time with their tails between their legs, it was us that were laughing at there inability to apply pressure when it counted. I Guarantee they will face the haka this week or the same thing will happen. Posted by: Kiwi Fan, Auckland, Other Reply

14/11/2008 1:15:30 PM Kiwi Fan, you are talking about England, almost beaten by Papua, thrashed by the Roo's and who led you for most of the game, the Roo's face your silly little face pulling routine everytime, and the result is usually a thrashing, so what is your point? If they put as much energy into their football as they do into the hakasmaka they may be a chance. My 3 year old is more intimidating at dinner time! Posted by: Haka Smaka, Sydney, Australia Reply

23/11/2008 8:26:36 AM listen boys. now i am related to Issac Luke and i don't give a flying rats ass cheek who or where u come from but to us kiwis the haka is our tradition and to be honest we don't care if u think that its stupid! and another things is that, not to be bragy or anything but guess what NEW ZEALAND WON the rlwc and Australia or the Poms didn't so i think i speak or behalf of all kiwis COP THAT!lol
Posted by: big kiwi fan, Auckland, Other Reply

 

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